Whether or not you believe in the literal story of Adam & Eve, consider this for a moment: What if Eve rejected Adam as a mate?

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It’s difficult to separate James Whale’s Bride of Frankenstein from it’s very obvious and sometimes laughable connections to the Bible. In episode 22, Abbey and I talk a bit about these connections but we also talk about the Bride’s (Elsa Lanchester) memorable scene of defiance towards becoming the Monster’s (Boris Karloff) friend and more importantly, his wife. The scene understandably, comes as a shock to the viewer. I certainly wasn’t expecting it when I first saw the film 20 years ago. In fact, I was pretty bummed. Not only is the Bride’s screen time less than 5 mins but she doesn’t really do anything with that time… or does she?


On first viewing of Bride, I was left feeling disappointed. I hoped in my 10-year-old heart that she and the monster would get together and that she would kill Dr. Pretorius (Ernest Thesiger) and run off into the sunset with her new hubby; wreaking havoc all over Europe until the end of time. But no. She doesn’t do anything particularly monstrous in the film. In fact, she doesn’t even look monstrous. Apart from a few hidden stitches on her neck and teased hair, she’s beautiful by society’s standards. It wasn’t until I grew up and recognized the patriarchal society I lived in that I started to appreciate her and begin to understand why the Bride is so important for all film genres; not just horror.

One of the key topics in this episode is the fact that the Bride rejects the Monster straight away. As he takes her hand and smiles at her, her face twists from shocked and confused to absolutely horrified. “She hates me…like others,” the Monster says as the Bride screams in his face.


Why does she hate him though? What did he do? Well, nothing….

Some have argued with me that the Bride has only known handsome gentlemen up until the point she meets the ugly brutish monster. He’s not like Dr. Frankenstein or Dr. Pretorius, who so lovingly dressed her and (I guess) slapped on her makeup beforehand. In the film, she seems to have a deep connection to Frankenstein in particular. She seems so transfixed by him that she can’t even stand properly. Less than 5 years ago I probably would have agreed with that but I don’t think so now. I think that she, like most newborns do, connected to the doctors like they were her parents rather than her lovers. We could get into how this theory illustrates the concept of “babying” women or the freakish convention of “born sexy yesterday” but I can’t get into that now. Just click this link HERE to watch an amazing video about it by Pop Culture Detective because it’s definitely relevant to Bride of Frankenstein.

What I do want to write about is how love and the title of “bride” cannot be manufactured by an outside source not even in fiction. This is something we talk about in the episode but I wanted to expand on it here. Technically the monster did nothing wrong to the Bride. He just existed in her company and took her hand which, now that I’m thinking about it, could be a “bad touch” moment. He doesn’t say anything to offend her or to scare her off, in fact, he calls her his friend rather than his wife when he meets her. She’s not having it though. She hates him and wants nothing to do with him and honestly, why would she? She doesn’t know him and even if she did who cares? The Bride was created for one purpose and one purpose only and that was to marry the monster and she freaking pulls a rug from under him and the doctors by saying NO. She doesn’t love him even though she’s a monster like him. That’s pretty good writing.

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This is so incredible for so many reasons. Abbey brings up an interesting point in the episode: maybe the Bride is a lesbian? Sure! She could totally be a lesbian! We all know that our sexual orientation is determined before birth. It’s not something we choose. Not only could the Bride not be interested in male genitalia but she could also not be interested in sex at all. She could be A-sexual for all we know! She could be a transgender man who is interested in women! Just because she was put into the body of a woman by the doctors doesn’t mean that she feels like a woman. The Bride could easily be a man! There are so many reasons why she rejects the Monster and all of them are great guesses. All we really know is that she doesn’t like him like that. She wants to be more than a bride and unfortunately she dies before we can ever find out what that is. Oh, and there’s no “GROOM OF THE MONSTER” horror movie is there!? Nope. Never the Monster, always the Bride. Aside from all that, not only does her rejection work thematically for the film but it also works in terms of female representation in film.

Let’s jump to 2013 with the release of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug.

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Yes. We’re about to jump on over to the fantasy film genre. Listen though, what I am about to talk about goes for all genres in film. I’m just using this one as an example.

I have a lot of issues with The Hobbit films but one of the franchise’s major flaws was putting Evangeline Lilly’s character into a love triangle. Lilly is no stranger to this outdated stereotype in media (I AM LOOKING AT YOU ABC’S LOST) and that’s a shame. In The Hobbit, Lilly plays a made up elven character named Tauriel. This character is not in the J.R.R. Tolkien book, The Hobbit but I guess I can see why they added her to the films: there are no women in The Hobbit. This brings up a question that I won’t answer here but that we can all think about collectively: is no representation better than bad representation? Think about it and let me know at goodmourningnancy@gmail.com.

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So, without getting into too much detail as to why The Hobbit films fell apart early in production, Lilly’s character Tauriel was just supposed to be Legolas’s (Orlando Bloom) badass girlfriend who would also be the token female representation the film “needed.” With that said, Tauriel is a completely flat and unremarkable character because she doesn’t fit into the story let alone the world that Tolkien created. After the films were completed, Lilly got called back to do some re-shoots. Normally re-shoots are no big deal… but these re-shoots were huge. The studios wanted to completely change her character arc as well as the character arcs of two others: Legolas and Kili (Aidan Turner). That’s right. The studio wanted a love triangle. *SMH*

It was bad enough Tauriel was created solely for the purpose of being a man’s love interest but TWO!? When you watch the films, the love triangle seems rushed and tacked on and that’s because it was! I would have loved to have seen Tauriel become self-aware and just scream into Legolas’s and Kili’s faces like the Bride and then just run in the opposite direction. If they were going to have a new female character in The Hobbit, I wish that they had written her to say NO like the Bride.

I want to finish by saying that there is NOTHING WRONG with being a wife  (I am) or someone’s girlfriend (Abbey is) and maybe bad representation IS better than no representation at all (again, it’s a touchy subject, so email us what you think). But very recently, the well-known feminist writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie (We Should All Be Feminists and Americanah) spoke to Hillary R. Clinton about her twitter biography which, at the time this essay was written, says:


“Wife, mom, grandma, women+kids advocate, FLOTUS, Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016 presidential candidate.”


Adichie, who is a Clinton supporter, found the beginning of Clinton’s bio to be disappointing mostly because not many successful men (including Clinton’s husband, Bill) have the title “husband” starting off their own Twitter bios. Successful women are expected to include their domestic/personal lives with their professional ones and not just include them but put them first. Again, there is nothing wrong with this if it’s YOUR CHOICE to put “wife, mom, grandma” before your other successes. I think that’s great! I think the problem here is that women who have both domestic lives and professional ones are more likely to be condemned if they don’t mention their domestic lives first (whether it’s on social media or in a conversation). I can almost guarantee you that Clinton’s campaign team wrote that Twitter bio for her to help “humanize” her. Can you imagine if she started off with “hair icon” or “Senator” first? I wonder what people would say?

As someone who was raised by a stay-at-home-mom and someone who has a mother-in-law who worked three jobs to support her family, I have a huge respect for mothers of all kinds. Both of them have domestic lives but they also have dreams and goals outside of wifehood and motherhood too. What’s wonderful is that they both recognize that. They’re not one arc women and neither is the Bride.

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It makes total sense to me now why the Bride doesn’t want to marry the monster. Her realization is sort of meta in a way. To me, she’s trying to tell us something. She’s trying to say “I’m more than this.” We can’t force fictional female characters to be just brides and girlfriends. The audience isn’t going to buy it. We can tell when it’s fake and forced. By having female characters in films proving to be more than just token female reps, we can begin to tell truthful stories about ourselves in fantastical settings.

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Episode 22: The Bride of Frankenstein – Friend Zoned premieres Tuesday, April 24 *EST* on SoundCloud, StitcherTune InGoogle Play,  Podbean and iTunes/Apple Podcast

Hello Current Listeners and Newbs!

Wow… it’s been a long time since we’ve posted a blog post. Don’t worry… it’s not because we’ve forgotten! If you’ve been following our journey you’ve probably noticed that we’ve been very busy over here at Good Mourning, Nancy and we haven’t had the time (nor the energy) to update our blog posts! So far, GMN is run solely by Abbey and myself. We’ve come to the obvious conclusion that our episode content and quality trumps the blog posts! We want to make sure our episodes sound great but we also want to make sure we use all of our spare time to research the films we discuss. Of course, there have been many other amazing things happening to GMN that have been keeping us busy! All of which are helping us GROW!!


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We’ve also been going through some *day* job changes that have been taking up a lot of time (as they do…ugh!).


Okay, enough excuses… we promise that blog posts will return at the end of Season 2 (beginning of April/May 2018).

Thank you as always for listening to the show. Your constant love and support is unbelievable and we wouldn’t be here without you all! Have a great mourning and we’ll see you next time!

  • Gracie

James Wan does it again.


The Conjuring 2 manages to be just as scary as the first, and even if you don’t believe the case files of Ed and Lorraine Warren, the film manages to deliver just as many tasteful scares as it’s predecessor. There are terrifying ghosts and demonic imagery that repeat on a terrifying reel in your mind long after the credits have rolled.

Like Gracie stated in her previous blog post about our season 2 premiere (with the first installment of The Conjuring), the film shows us the unshakable bond of love between Ed and Lorraine, who are sent to England to help a single housewife, Peggy Hodgeson (Francis O’Connor) and her children overcome the malevolent spirits plaguing their home and one of the children in particular, Janet (Madison Wolfe). The film paints us a portrait of what their life is like- they are poor and their spirits have been broken by the split of Peggy and her husband, living in a cramped house and surviving on bare minimum- the perfect dysfunctional setting for a haunting that shakes them to their core.

What I love about this film, or the franchise in general, is that it focuses on the strength within the female characters. Like the first Conjuring film, this one deals with adolescent girls, their mother and the ghosts that wreak havoc on their lives. Not to mention the badassery of Lorraine, who does everything she can to help them. While the cases themselves are incredibly different -along with the real-life, first hand accounts of Ed and Lorraine- there is an undeniable theme that James Wan sticks to in both films- the villains and the heroes are…. Female. Bathsheba and Valak, both malevolent, possessive (pun intended) and deadly are counterbalanced by Lorraine, Carolyn and Peggy. And I love that this is showcased in such a tasteful and empowering way, even if it was unintentional by Wan.


It delves deep into the balance between good and evil in the female form and gives us room to play around with interpretation about what “girl power” means. It shows us that we can triumph over evil if we want to, but we can also run amok and haunt the hell out of someone’s life. It also shows how tumultuous life can be for a young girl. One minute you’re worrying about the growing pains of puberty, wondering if you’ll ever see your father again, and the next minute you’re being possessed by a creepy old guy who used to live in your house. It’s never easy- especially when you’re trying to communicate with those around you and you aren’t being heard. I’m talking about poor little Janet, who deals with the worst of the haunting. Lorraine takes the time to get to know Janet and listens to what she has to say (Bechdel test = passed). In the end, Lorraine is again the one who is standing up to demons and telling them to eff off. Ever protective and motherly, she’s a role model for us all. On the other hand, there’s Valak- the main demon who wants nothing more than to destroy the Hodgeson’s earthly peace and tranquility. Stuck in the middle of it all is Janet- who teeters between light and dark, but comes out the winner.


The Conjuring 2 takes the idea that in many possession films, men do the rescuing- and turns it on it’s head. Lorraine is always stepping up to the plate and facing her fears in order to save the souls of the anyone in these predicaments. In films like The Exorcist, The Rite, The Vatican Tapes, Deliver Us From Evil and many others that follow in their stead, exorcisms are often performed by a male. Lorraine swoops in and completely steals the show. The Conjuring 2, along with The Conjuring, shows us that we can’t let men have all the fun when it comes to exorcising those demons.

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To our dedicated listeners,

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Now, on to season 2 episode 1! The Conjuring! Whoa… what can we say about this film? As far as I know, this is the most recently made film we’ve reviewed (so far). Interestingly enough, I know a lot of people who have not seen it. I was just visiting two friends in New York City and while lounging in their apartment, we flipped through HBO Go to find that both Conjuring movies were available to stream. I was pretty excited to see that they were available, mostly because I knew it was a great way for listeners to watch the movie if they didn’t have the DVD. Sure enough, neither one of my friends had seen either Conjuring movie and the reason why? They thought it was going to be corny and predictable; just another haunted house movie.

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Yes, The Conjuring is just another haunted house movie, truly it is. You can even argue quite strongly that it’s corny and predictable…. because it is. I won’t argue against that. So, why does it stand out to Abbey and I and why, after watching it, did my friends end up LOVING IT?

Unlike other haunted house movies, The Conjuring director and writers understand that serious horror does not have to be all about dread. Maybe this has to do with Ed and Lorraine Warren’s unshakable faith in their religion, but there is an intense sense of hope in this film, something that a lot of horror movies tease you with but then take away from you with a horrific twist ending in which evil still lives and by golly lets you KNOW IT. The Conjuring doesn’t do that. Sure, the ending is slightly ambiguous (no spoilers, don’t worry) but you’re not full of dread like at the ending of The Descent (again, no spoilers). You feel hopeful that as long as Ed and Lorraine are around, everything will be fine.

Speaking of Ed and Lorraine Warren, they are the power couple of horror movies. Seriously, they are every horror movie couples’ dream am I right? Their story to help the Perrons rid the evil in their house and in the mother (played brilliantly by Lili Taylor) is like an adventure story that I would go as far as to say is similar to a Spielberg or Lucas film. Only it’s awesome because they are like, happily married. How often do you have films about MARRIED couples going on supernatural adventures together? Top that all off with legit scares? You seriously have one hell of a just another haunted house movie on your hands.


The Conjuring is the perfect film to begin season 2 with just for that reason. Yes, we think it’s scary but we also think it’s fun and it shows that with teamwork and faith in each other and your success, you can conquer anything. That’s exactly what we’ve done.

Welcome back to Good Mourning, Nancy! We can’t to share this season with you!

  • Gracie





Happy October!

Don’t you you just HATE stupid movie lists? Especially ones made during Halloween-time that don’t have actual Halloween movies on them? We do too. So, by popular demand, we have made a Top Halloween Movies List! So, with 20 days till Halloween, here are Abbey and Gracie’s favorite Halloween-time movies:

1. Sleepy Hollow (1999)

The perfect movie to watch on a cold October day, snuggled up with a blanket and some coffee with your freshly carved pumpkin glowing in the window. Easily one of my favorite Tim Burton films, and the Johnny Depp/Christina Ricci duo is just too good. The best part though is that the story of Sleepy Hollow takes place in upstate NY! SUPER close to home for us! – Abbey


2. Trick r’ Treat (2007)

This movie was a GOD-SEND for all horror movie and Halloween lovers alike. An anthology series that takes place on Halloween night in a small, American town! YES! This film has creepy kids, poisoned candy, werewolves, urban legends, and the cutest little pumpkin demon, Sam! – Gracie


3. Arsenic & Old Lace (1944)

I LOVE this movie so much because it is HILARIOUS. A true classic, this black and white film takes place in Brooklyn on Halloween night and centers around two old women with some quirks: they like killing old men and burying them in their basement. Probably one of Cary Grant’s best films, it’s perfect for all audiences. – Abbey


4. Satan’s Little Helper (2004)

I was surprised to find out that not many people had seen or even heard of this Halloween gem. This film is so disturbing on so many levels mostly because it’s shot like a comedy and you’re not sure wether to laugh or cringe. Without giving away too much, on Halloween a little kid dressed in a devil costume makes friends with an adult stranger dressed as “Satan,” a character from the kid’s favorite video game. Chaos ensues. – Gracie


5. Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992)

Creepy castles, Victorian vampires, werewolves and 1990s Winona Ryder. Oh, and Tom Freaking Waits plays RENFIELD? This movie wins on multiple Halloween levels. – Abbey


6. Dracula (1931)

It’s tradition for my husband and I to watch this film on Halloween night. I can’t image my Octobers without it! Directed by Tod Browning and starring Bela Lugosi (the ONE & ONLY COUNT DRACULA in my opinion) this time-less classic from the 1930s gives you an uneasiness and chill only suitable on Halloween. – Gracie


7. The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)

This one is kind of a given, but it’s because we all grew up watching it! Tim Burton based NMBC off of the clay-animated Christmas specials he grew up on. Now, we finally have one for Halloween. I can’t resist singing the opening theme whenever I watch it! After all, “This is Halloween…” – Abbey


8. The Wicker Man (1973)

Although the film takes place in the month of May, there’s something about Christian-burning pagans that screams October to me… I love this film so much and it saddens me how jaded others are to creepiness when it comes to horror films now because not many think this film is scary. I think this film is a classically frightening. Who can you trust? Why are you really here? Who will save you (if anyone)? It’s time to keep your appointment with the Wicker Man. – Gracie


9. Young Frankenstein (1974)

For when you just need something lighthearted during this creepy time of year. And Gene Wilder. – Abbey


10. The Exorcist (1973)

Another Halloween night tradition in my home! Yes, IT (2017) beat it in the box office recently but you cannot deny that The Exorcist is a far more superior film. Simple moments in this film are frightening (thanks to director, William Friedkin) like when little Regan’s mother is walking down the streets of Georgetown, red and orange leaves blowing in the wind at her feet while the theme song Tubular Bells is playing. You immediately feel cold, helpless, and scared to death. – Gracie


11. The Wolf Man (1941) & The Wolfman (2010)

Am I allowed a two-for-one deal with this list? Of course I am. Because both renditions of The Wolf Man are perfect for any Halloween occasion. On a night when we all dress up as the things we’re afraid of, werewolves are the ideal Halloween monster, in my humble opinion. – Abbey


12. The Lords of Salem (2012)

My favorite Rob Zombie film and it’s completely underrated! The plot is set in Salem, MA and stars Sheri Moon Zombie as Heidi, a local radio DJ who receives a mysterious record with a terrifyingly hypnotic song on it. Throughout the film she meets strange characters and has horrible hallucinations, but finally discovers what it all means when she accepts her destiny at the end. – Gracie


13. Beetlejuice (1988)

Another Tim Burton film? Why not?! This movie is so great because it’s frightening but not too serious. Lydia was my style icon like from age 14 until…… who am I kidding? She’s still my style icon. This film comes complete with an instruction manual for newly dead humans (The Handbook for the Recently Deceased, to be precise), sand worms, and a séance. What more can you ask for on Halloween? – Abbey


14. Hocus Pocus (1993)

The 90s was a GREAT time for Halloween movies, obviously! I don’t think I need to waste my time explaining to you why Hocus Pocus is an amazing Halloween film, you already know why! I will say that I just discovered this year that Mick Garris wrote the screenplay… WHAT!? – Gracie


15. ParaNorman (2012)

This is a kids movie, I know. No cares given. It’s so good and I LOVE the story line. Bonus: It features an openly gay teenage boy and totally normalizes it. The cast is phenom and there are ghosts, witches and zombies. – Abbey


16. The House on Haunted Hill (1959)

All hail Vincent Price! Master of creep! This film is filled with all of the fun and camp you would expect from a 1950s horror movie. It kind of reminds you of those cheesy hay-rides or state fair haunted houses you go on throughout October. It’s not really scary but it’s a fun, fun ride with a lot of AMAZING quotes. PLUS it opens with a bang! – Gracie


17. Evil Dead (2013)

I love the original, but the coldness of this film screams Halloween to me. Demons, ancient curses, drug withdrawal and the hacking off of limbs. Ah, yes. – Abbey


18. The Haunting (1963)

One of my favorite authors is Shirley Jackson and she gave the world her masterpiece, The Haunting of Hill House in 1959. It was adapted into a film about four years later and it did as much justice as a adaptation possibly can! Lonely Eleanor and bold (and possibly bi-sexual!!) Theodora are asked to help an anthropologist study ghosts and the psychic phenomenon in Hill House. Once they get there, strange things start to occur. Seriously, nothing beats this classic haunted house story. – Gracie


19. Halloween III: Season of the Witch

Okay, just some backstory here: Halloween III was and I guess technically still is a member of the Halloween movie franchise (yup, the one with Michael Myers) but the thing is that Myers was just supposed to be in the first two and the other Halloween movies to follow would just be random, un-related stories that took place on Halloween. When Halloween III came out audiences were very disappointed that Myers wasn’t back….whoops. So, that ended that. It’s too bad because Halloween III is freaking fun and amazing! My husband and I were lucky enough to see it last year in its original film format. If you like ancient pagan rituals, creepy masks, and conspiracy theories, I think you’ll like this mis-understood Halloween film as well. – Gracie


20. Halloween (1978)

Last but very not least, this film is still amazing years after its original release. Classic imagery and horror themes, a young Jamie Lee Curtis kicks ass as the final girl that starts off this undeniably frightening franchise. Thanks for giving all of us nightmares during your homecoming, Mike. Happy Halloween! – Abbey

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I’m not a fan of gore.

People are always surprised to hear this, usually after I tell them that horror is my favorite genre. It’s kind of funny because gore and horror go hand-in-hand in a lot of mainstream cases and in a lot of ways it’s part of what makes the genre so great. From campy to hyper realistic, to body and creature gore, there’s something for everyone. But gore has never really been appealing to me in a way that I think it appeals to a lot of horror fans. I like gore if there’s a good reason for it.

Enter the Saw franchise.

“How much blood would you shed to stay alive?” (blogspot.mrcostumes.com)

Saw was one of those movies that everyone I knew had talked about but I had not seen until it had been out for a few years. I knew the premise- a demented man kidnaps seemingly hapless victims who have lost their way in life and makes them fight to the death to save their own skin…literally.


Jigsaw, the mastermind behind the twisted games and traps, is dying from cancer and believes everyone should appreciate what they have- even if their circumstances aren’t ideal. It was one of the first films I had seen by James WanInsidious introduced me to a new realm of terror and after that I watched The Conjuring and Dead Silence. The films are magnificent and James Wan really has a way of tapping into some deep-seeded fears that exist within my psyche. 


But Saw is a different kind of terror, because it traversed the territory of “torture porn” in a way that made me think harder than a typical movie of that genre ever had before. Jigsaw, though masochistic and twisted, had a reason for doing what he did to his victims. He put them between a rock and a hard place because they forgot what it means to be alive, to be a decent human being. Instead of senselessly spree killing a flock of people, he meticulously delves into the lives of each of his victims and tugs at their worst fears in order to bring out their survival instinct. I think one of the reasons why I love this film so much is because the villain and victims are almost one in the same. Everyone has a dark side, but Jigsaw knows how to make us nod our heads in agreement, even if we’re cringing while we do it.

When Gracie and I research and explore the topics of the movies that we talk about on the show, we like to take a look at what’s going on socially at the time the movie was released. Saw came out during a time when suicide and depression was finally breaching the surface and advocates for mental health were starting to destroy the stigma surrounding victims of mental health disorders and addiction. We as a nation were in the beginning stages of really talking about depression, addiction and mental health in a more approachable way and were working on ways to help people solve their problems,


instead of leaving them in the dark. Saw showed us that there was more going on behind the scenes of a persons life than what we see at face value, but this film took the discussion and blew it out of the water. It was a really in your face approach to the topic, and one that was perfectly suited for the horror genre. And it got people’s attention because of the gore. So horror was making an impact and taking our fears and psychological approaches and turning them into the stuff of nightmares. If you thought that depression, addiction, marital affairs, blackmailing and stalking was scary, Saw proved that your feelings were justified.

  • Abbey Brown

Saw is currently available to watch for free on Amazon.com with your Amazon Prime membership. 

This week on Good Mourning, Nancy we decided to try something a little different. We took a leap and welcomed our very first guest on the show.

Stacy Underwood, a local Central New York fashion designer and owner of Painted Doll Designs, is a huge Stephen King fan. When I first met Stacy in college, I noticed we had a lot in common; we both loved creepy stuff, Tim Burton, and of course, the movie The Shining (1980). What I didn’t learn until later was that Stacy also loved all of Stephen Untitled designKing’s books, unlike myself.

As some of you may know, I am not a huge *Stephen King book* fan.

Before all of you crucify me, let me just say that I still appreciate what Stephen King has done for horror and what he has done to give it to the masses. I’ve also learned a lot about horror and writing from King’s books Danse Macabre and On Writing. I like Stephen King’s non-fiction because I can get behind it creatively but his fiction? Not so much.

With that said, I love most if not all of his films (yes, even the very bad but star-studded, 1992 film, Sleepwalkers).

Going back to my friend, Stacy, she loves both King’s books as well as their film adaptations. I have to admit, when I found this out, I was a bit surprised. How can you possibly love both (!?) especially when talking about Kubrick’s interpretation of King’s novel. Her argument, you can’t think of them as adaptations (more about that in the podcast episode)!

Also to my surprise, Abbey was NOT a huge fan of The Shining and has never read the book! I don’t want to speak too much on Abbey’s behalf but she mentions in the episode how when she first saw The Shining, she didn’t think it was very scary. This view was very different from mine and Stacy’s.

When I chose the The Shining for this episode, I did not think the podcast would go in the direction that it eventually goes in. I thought Stacy, Abbey, and I would be on the same page most of the time throughout the recording.

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What we all discovered was that we all had very different interpretations on the story, the conspiracy theories surrounding the film, and King’s original story. In my opinion, this was the perfect recipe for creating a fun and a worthy hour-long discussion on one of the most popular films of all-time between three women who love horror.

Episode 9 of Good Mourning, Nancy premieres Tuesday, September 5th on iTunes and SoundCloud.

As always, thank you for reading and listening!

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Hello Listeners!

Abbey and I decided that it’s high-time we started a Patreon for Good Mourning, Nancy! We’re so, so excited! We are working hard to make an exciting and fun video to post on our Patreon page! One of the highlights of the video will be us reading some of your GMN fan mail! That’s right! We want to hear from YOU! If you want the chance to have your letter read in our video, send it to our new address:


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We appreciate all of you (no, seriously) and we are very excited to get the Patreon up and running! Happy listening and we hope to hear from you soon!

  • Gracie

When Abbey and I were picking out the first batch of movies to talk about on the podcast, one of the ones I had suggested was The Slumber Party Massacre (1982). I had only seen it once before when I was home alone and making star origami like a cool kid, and I remembered thinking that it was good but not that memorable. I couldn’t remember the names of the characters (still can’t, honestly) or the bad guy’s face (he doesn’t wear a mask….) or who even wrote and directed it (understandable, right?) and the plot was also incredibly simple. It goes as follows:

A group of beautiful teen girls decide to have a slumber party. They are attacked by a madman with a power drill during the slumber party. Many die except for the final girl. The end.

Spoiler alert?

There’s no surprise kills, in-depth character development, or a twist ending. You would think the movie would completely escape my brain after watching it once but it didn’t. I still thought it was good and I couldn’t figure out why but I couldn’t get that DVD cover out of my head…. You know the one I’m talking about. If you don’t, I’ll place it here in this blog post for you to see. The DVD cover that is totally NOT suggestive AT ALL. NOPE.

SPM cover

The cover is a bit crude but there’s something about it right? It’s definitely intentional which made me think “Who is behind this movie? Who made this?” It seems like, on the surface, some young dudes made the movie in their spare time right?


I finally realized why I and so many others liked The Slumber Party Massacre: It’s subtle but it’s feminist and that’s the real twist.

Emanuela Betti wrote a great article for Bitch Magazine called Slumber Party Massacre and the Male Gaze. Here’s a small piece from the article:

“Through its witty and clever humor, the movie deconstructs the prevailing sexism and masculinity in the slasher genre, offering one of the most entertaining feminist exploitation movies ever made.

Slumber Party Massacre is very women-centric: both in the characters and the women behind the scenes. The film was directed by Amy Holden Jones, one of the few female directors to delve into the exploitation genre, and written by feminist Rita Mae Brown. This fact alone should make you want to pay attention to the small details, which in this movie are actually not that small but thrown right into your face.”

When you listen to the podcast, you’ll hear us talk about the different “in your face feminist” moments but you’re also going to hear us try to get around the confusing moments as well. The ones that make you feel like “Wait, I thought this was written and directed by women? What’s with all of this objectification?”

There’s parts of the film that are definitely troubling but maybe that’s the point. Maybe those moments of objectification are meant to make us feel icky inside and to feel uncomfortable with what we see and how these women are treated in the film. The Slumber Party Massacre isn’t so much a parody on slashers but a feminist statement piece.

Maybe now we’ll all look at male dominated horror movies differently and question them a bit more.

  • Gracie

I remember when the USA version of The Ring came out when I was really young and everyone in middle school had watched it at someone’s sleepover the weekend it was released on DVD. I overheard conversations in the hallway about how my classmates had nightmares about Samara (Daveigh Chase) creeping out of their TV in the middle of the night. I brushed it off, because I was too busy loving the old go-to-horror-classics to care. I didn’t really get into modern horror until my high school years, when I started watching movies like Saw, House of 1,000 Corpses and Insidious, and I didn’t see The Ring until I

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“When you die, you see the ring.”

was out of college. I was in my 20’s, and I wasn’t really into it the first time I saw it. It was creepy, sure, but not as scary as everyone hyped it up to be. I re-watched it and for some reason, it really clicked with me the second time around. I loved the filming, the acting was superb and I noticed little details here and there that I didn’t catch the first time. There’s so much depth and meaning to this film that I swear I could write a 50 page English paper on the topic of the themes alone in The Ring.

I think The Ring spoke to me so much more as an adult because I had developed more of an understanding of how females perfectly fit into the horror movie genre. There are so many opportunities for the women involved in this film: the cast is primarily female, (there are really only three main male characters) and we get to see the hero and the villain, along with the side characters from a female perspective. The theme that carries the entirety of the film focuses on a mother’s love for her biological child (Rachel and her son, Aiden), and is balanced out by a mother’s hate for her adopted child (Anna and Samara). It shows both sides of the coin when it comes to being a mother and struggling with the ability to raise or even conceive a child, and really sheds light on the topic in such a way that it leaves you thinking about it long after the movie has ended.

Rachel and Aidan attending the funeral. www.horrorhomeroom.com

I don’t think it’s any surprise why the number 7 is used in the film. The whole plot goes like this: after you view a menagerie of creepy imagery (which relates to the life and death of Samara, the evil spirit in the form of a little girl) captured on a VHS tape, a countdown begins to your death. You receive a phone call and an ominous voice on the other end says two words “seven days” and so your timer starts immediately. You have seven days to show someone else the tape in order to save you from your own demise – it’s a never ending circle. A little bit of background research into numerology will tell you that seven is often used as a symbol for those who are truth seekers, for those in tune with spirituality and it is attributed to the tarot card of The Chariot, which symbolizes drive, ambition, strength and completion. All of these could easily describe Rachel (Naomi Watts).  

I think Rachel is the real reason why I fell in love with The Ring. She’s pretty much what I aspire to be- strong intelligent, successful, and straight to the point.  Rachel’s character does such a great service to women in horror that I cannot help but applaud those who were involved in the films creation, especially Naomi Watts, who did a stand up job for bringing Rachel to life. It’s not just that Rachel is a badass, though.  She’s a single mother but that doesn’t outshine her autonomous self.

She’s a single mother with ambition and a career.

This film lends single motherhood more than a nod, which is something that isn’t often seen in this genre. Because of this, I think it lead the way for films like The Babadook and even The Conjuring 2 which feature single mothers amidst a haunting trying to provide for their children. But The Ring is unique because Rachel is not sitting there wringing her

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Rachel watches the cursed VHS. www.horrorfreaknews.com

hands and sobbing in a puddle when something happens to her or her son. She gets friggin’ going, trying everything in her power to stop something terrible from happening to Aiden. That speaks volumes about the reality of motherhood and what women are capable of. It does away with the notion that working single mothers are neglectful of their children- kind of like how The Exorcist portrays Chris, Regan’s mother. Chris is a working woman who maybe isn’t as attentive to her daughter as she could be- and she becomes helpless after Regan is possessed, so she calls upon a male priest for his guidance and to have her daughter exorcised. In the The Ring, Rachel takes the reins. She uses her drive to get her son out of danger.

If that doesn’t scream female empowerment, I don’t know what does.


  • Abbegail